Posts by Crisis of Conscience

83

If you felt/feel that you had/have good, close "friends" in the org, how did/does it feel to just give them up?

by Crisis of Conscience in

jw
friends

this is my biggest dilema.

although mentally i really feel i could walk away from the org right now, i still have genuine love for the people i have come to know over the years.

i love people!.

"Where else would we go?" - A common JW cliche'.

by Crisis of Conscience in

how many times have you heard that before, whether in or out?

in the past, i truly believed that.

if i were to leave the "truth", where else would i go?.

so let's say armageddon comes,do you believe that all jw's would be destroyed because jehovah knows it's a false religion...it can't be denied,for the most part,they try to live by the bible...if anybody has to be punished i would say it's the leaders...i know that god wouldn't judge a whole organization but persons individually....so what i'm trying to ask is....do you think you're in a better position right now not for freedom but for salvation than the witnesses??

if by the time you're finished reading this post armageddon is here...would u wish that you still were a witness or are you satisfied that you've made god proud?.

Crisis of Conscience

Is this a thread to count time for Auxiliary Pioneering in March? Sneaky, sneaky!

30 hours! Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah!

CoC

46

On JWN .. are you a teacher or student ?

by caliber in

jw
friends

likely most poeple feel that they at times can and should be both , that is a teacher or a student.

i know i have learned and gained much insight into many things here.. but most often.

fail to make acknowledgement... not sure why i guess i hate for a person to feel i am flattering them or kissing up.

Crisis of Conscience

Student! I actually enjoy reading and thinking more than posting. There are many great posters here that both spark my interest and my thought process.

But I occasionally pipe in with some thoughts of my own.

CoC

7

Guide to Leaving the Organization

by leavingwt in

jw
friends

some of you may enjoy this post at the jwr forum.

the author has drafted a 'guide for leaving' the organization, and he would like feedback.. .

http://jehovahswitnessrecovery.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=12243.

Crisis of Conscience

@ slimboyfat - That is because the other one is backed by the holy spirit!

7

Guide to Leaving the Organization

by leavingwt in

jw
friends

some of you may enjoy this post at the jwr forum.

the author has drafted a 'guide for leaving' the organization, and he would like feedback.. .

http://jehovahswitnessrecovery.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=12243.

Crisis of Conscience

Marking for later. I'm going to read the info on that link. Thanks LWT.

65

Attention Governing Body: October 2, 2014 is only 940 days away...

by Alfred in

in 1823, john aquila brown (a man who is not mentioned in any wt publication) came up with a bizarre mathematical calculation which totalled 2,520 years (in an unauthorized attempt to predict the end of the gentile times).... several religions recycled this bizarre calculation, including the adventists and the bible students... when armageddon didn't come on the variety of early 20th century dates predicted by several "dooms-day" religions of that time (including charles taze russell's bible students who predicted that the big a would start in 1914), they all finally realized that this 2,520-year calculation was nothing more than arbitrary mathematical speculation derived from erratic biblical extrapolation.... except for the bible students who continued to move up the date for armageddon 2 more times (1918, 1925) and then decided to use wwi as the starting point for the "last days".. all the while, one thing that seems to remain intact is the october 2, 1914 date.

oddly, for the watchtower bible & tract publishing cult, this particular date still marks the end of the 2,520-year period (that john aquila brown referred to in his bizarre 1823 book "the even tide")... again, no mention of this in any watchtower publication.

but, for jws, that date still remains the starting point for the period of time often referred to as the "last days" or even "the generation that shall not pass".. because of this, the governing body has been forced to change the definition of "the generation that shall not pass" countless times since the early 1970's.

Crisis of Conscience

I think this will be a good thread to keep alive. Kind of like the Armageddon hasn't arrived yet thread.

56

Anyone here use a tablet computer

by maksym in

jw
friends

just curious here who uses the new tablet computers, whether they be android based or ipad ios from apple.

does anyone here use a phone to post and what is your experience with that?.

i'm curious as to how much more time there will be before these devices are the main computers for people.

Crisis of Conscience

@ under the radar - No problem at all! Just doing my part.

CoC

9

No Governing Body in Paul's day

by The Searcher in

the given understanding of the bible account at acts 15 regarding the circumcision issue is that a "governing body" resolved the issue.

is this assertion based on scriptural evidence?

while jesus walked the earth, some of his apostles were contentious with each other regarding who would be superior to the others.

Crisis of Conscience

Bookmarked

27

Reality setting in for Jehovah's Witnesses?

by MrDarkKnight in

when my friends and family try to "reason" with me about my decision to leave, i immediatley begin to question the interpretation of the so-called prophecy in the bible, i am getting the following consistent response:.

"it does not matter if the end comes in my lifetime.

i know i am doing god's will.".

Crisis of Conscience

Saying God wants all to attain repentance (as taught by the JW's) is just circular reasoning for why the end is not here yet. It never has to come! Sinners are born everyday, and they have to repent too!

CoC